 That's my michael stones. I'm xie ting. Good afternoon. Last week we did the, meanwhile reusable packages packaging research together in the lab. Yeah, today I will only ask you several simple questions about how you use it at home. That's okay for you to have a turn to 15 minutes discussion. Sure. Okay, so how do you feel about using the me one cup in your home? Ii use it a bit and it's fine for they use. You see. The thing is it looks a bit like medicine medicine books. 
And so, so if if if I would have, if I would buy something and like this, my myself, ii think ii would look for something which isn't s clinical as these books. So the looks could be improved. 
So you mean the appearance is similar to the medicine and and. So forth of, the box, it's a clinical. Okay, yeah. May I ask where did you put your meal cup in your home? Where did you store it? We did this story. It was in the kitchen on the table. It I didn't really store it yet. Ii guess it would get in close with all my other cups and things sort of mixed storage, good point. Okay. And then how do you feel about it in comparison to your other food containers? At all, it's just one more coco on day. 
Now. So ii don't have that for very, very strong feelings about it. Yeah, okay. So it gives you the feeling that it look like the medicine box may not the food containers. Yeah, it isn't really food companion. It doesn't look like a food campaigner. Is it that way? Yeah, why do you think it doesn't look like a food container? It's because of the sheep or the color or something makes you feel. It is not a food container. Iii think it's the white color go combines with the crew uh, the the little you screw on it, it makes it looks like some sort of medicine box. 
Yeah. So maybe a a few nice scholars, the different scholarship to make it more appealing. Yes. And have you finished your cookies? Did you clean the meanwhile cup? Or you just leave it aside? I haven't cleaned it, could haven't clean it yet. Now it's still in your cardboard in the kitchen. It's still there. In the kitchen. Ii still need to clean it. I'm not sure. Actually, if it was this for sure proof or not. No, this one is not suitable for the dishwasher. Okay, that's also this advantage, then. Yeah. 
Okay, then if this is not suitable for the dishwasher, then how you would clean it, how to clean uh uh, then I would have to clean it by hand. And that would mean also that I would try to remember to take my own store boxes with me down. Mhm. If I would want to read for that in supermarket, so you would prefer to use yourself container next time. If this one can't go in the dishwasher, then be something for me to take it into account. 
Okay. Then after the more consideration about the cop, if it is possible, would you like to shop again using the system or not? Sorry, could you repeat question? After the you use it at home and have some more consideration about the cop? Uh would, you like to shop again using the system or not? If that is possible in the netherlands, but no, it's not. But at iii don't think the copper has any impact if I would like to shop to revisit again or not, because I can also do it with my own containers. 
But would you like to use the system? If that is possible in delft? Maybe it depends on the price uh. Mainly, I guess, on the on the price of the product, you mean? Yeah, if it can get a prepared products, uh uh, a lot cheaper than I would go for the prepared person, I guess. 
Okay. Yeah. Because last time you only brought back a small cup with cookies, but could you imagine if, you had brought back several cups with other products? Then how would you prepare for your next shopping with a system? If you have a lot of reusable cups? Let me think take your time. It's a long question. Then I would have to store them in several places. I guess that would mean that I would have to take a number of cops with me probably also take the anti bottles and so on. Yeah uh that could be combine to take them out to the supermarket. 
And what do you mean by combine? Would you mean by about if I go to the supermarket now I need to think the uh uh, the drastic bags for the festivals, and so on and so on. I need to bring with me an anti plebiscite bottles. So ii could also bring them the empty recyclable calculate me to refill them. Yeah. Yeah. So that shouldn't be a real problem, I guess. Yeah. How would you consider about how many cops you need to buy and how to bring them? Because in perhaps you need to bring them with you all the day when you go to work or go to some other place and, how would you consider about this preparation process? 
That would be something that would mean I would have to take it with me to other places as well. Iii think iii wouldn't take those cups on every visit to the supermarket market. Ii was really have to plan it that would that would be aaa fitted from home to supermarket and back and not fire, so some other place like work. 
Okay, because there's there's more hassle than so do you mean that you will bring the containers from home to the supermarket directly and then come back to home? 
There are no other places involved in your route. If I go to the supermarket, I go to the that there are aaaa number of times that iii have only this to the supermarket and bring a a lot of stuff with me and other places to the supermarket. When I go to work career first that, this mostly is only a few things ii need for that day. 
So the cups will only go with me if I do aaaa large amount of helping. Yeah, yes, true. Yeah, then for your next shopping, would you prefer to reuse the same cops? Or you will return them and get some new cops from the system? If you use the system in the supermarket from your second time, depends how many times i've used it. If it's still fine, ii can reuse it. If I if if if, it's a bit used and scratchy and those kind of things, ii might want to recycle it. 
So to to change it for anyone. Yes. Yeah. Would you also bring yourself containers when you go to shopping, go to the supermarket? I would prefer to use my own container, so I would only use the other ones if I forget to bring me on. Yeah, yeah yeah. I remember you mentioned that in our interview. Do you feel that your actions in reusing the system will have an impact on our environment? Um limit, I guess, limited why you think it's limited. If I compare it with three package, yeah. It's the packaging. It depends how the uh uh packaging i'm using now is being recycled, of course. Yes, yes. They said, so separation here in belt mhm. 
So if it's a black plastic packets, then it's gets into the plastic waste. If the recycling of that is being done correctly, then the impact is limited is not. Then it would mean that the. Because iii use now will be in generated, so then recycling it would make sense. Yeah yeah, I understand. Okay. Okay, so it's hard for me to say how much in in fact it has. Yeah, it's just to think about your personal actions. Do you feel your contribute to the environment or or it is limited? Or you doesn't feel it at all? It, though, you could say it has a bit of impact, not very much but uh, every bit helps that's kind of id. 
So after having using the system and cop, there is 1 kind of system like this. Do you feel different towards buying product in single use packaging? When you go to shopping again after this research? I would like to use the rebecca system if it is available. So iiii think it's makes me more aware of possibility that it is there. Yeah, so it increase the your awareness of the possibilities. Yeah. 
Have a last question for you, and could you imagine this will become our main shopping approach for groceries in the future? So most of the packaged product on the shelf will become this reusable and refusable packaging system. I don't think so because there are there is so many choice in the supermarket, so there are so many products. So to be able to place all those the the the expenses in the supermarkets. Iiii think it's only a viable for the high for your products, for which kind of products, the high volume which have a large to turn around in supermarket. Yeah. So we finished, that's all my questions for the follow up interviews. A thanks a lot for sharing your sharing your opening again with me. So, okay, have a nice day. Thank you. Bye, bye bye. 